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Emily Hanford LIVE from Planet Word with Reid Lyon and Margaret Goldberg

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 06:02:00 +0000

Early in her teaching career, Margaret Goldberg was skeptical of the science of reading. Today, she is working with neuroscientist Reid Lyon to bring it into more classrooms. Lyon and Goldberg joined Sold a Story host Emily Hanford for a live conversation about the challenges of translating research into practice. The event was part of the Eyes on Reading series at Planet Word, a museum in Washington, D.C., dedicated to words and language.

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14: The Cuts

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 05:03:00 +0000

Education research is at a turning point in the United States. The Trump administration is slashing government funding for science and dismantling the Department of Education. We look at what the cuts mean for the science of reading — and the effort to get that science into schools.

Read: Trump cancels survey of high schoolers
Read: Nation’s Report Card at risk
Read: Lawsuit saves massive reading experiment
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Carolyn Riehl: Medical research and education research

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13: The List

Thu, 06 Mar 2025 06:05:00 +0000

Steubenville became a model of reading success. Then a new law in Ohio put it all at risk. In this episode, we look at the "science of reading" lists some states are making, why the program Steubenville has been using for 25 years isn't getting on many of these lists, and the surprising power of one curriculum review group.

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12: The Evidence

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:05:00 +0000

There’s a name for the program at the heart of Steubenville’s remarkable reading results. It’s called Success for All. It’s been around for decades, and numerous studies have shown it’s effective. But relatively few school districts use it. We trace the history of the program and why it’s never really caught on.

Read: Why don’t more schools use Success for All?
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11: The Outlier

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 06:05:00 +0000

There’s a school district in eastern Ohio where virtually all the students become good readers by the time they finish third grade. Many of the wealthiest places in the country can’t even say that. And Steubenville is a Rust Belt town where the state considers almost all the students “economically disadvantaged.” How did they do it?

Explore: Steubenville, by the numbers
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Book: Districts that Succeed
Book: How It's Being Done
Podcast: ExtraOrdinary Districts

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The podcast that's changing education

Fri, 01 Nov 2024 13:00:00 +0000

Nationally acclaimed journalist Emily Hanford's work is changing the ways schools around the country teach reading. In this award-winning podcast, she investigates why so many schools use an approach that cognitive scientists debunked decades ago.

Apple Podcasts has recognized Sold a Story as a Series Essential. To celebrate, we’re making it available without ads or other announcements for a limited time.

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10: The Details

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 05:05:00 +0000

Some of the teachers, students, parents and researchers we met in Sold a Story talk about the impact the podcast has had on their lives and in schools — and share some of their hopes and concerns about the “science of reading” movement.

Portraits: Zoe and Lee Gaul, Christine Cronin, Reid Lyon
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Video: Mark Seidenberg at Yale
Article: Seidenberg on translating the science
Article: Reid Lyon’s most important findings

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9: The Aftermath

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 05:05:00 +0000

Schools around the country are changing the way they teach reading. And that is having major consequences for people who sold the flawed idea we investigated in Sold a Story. But Lucy Calkins, Irene Fountas and Gay Su Pinnell are fighting back — and fighting to stay relevant. And so are organizations that promoted their work: the Reading Recovery Council of North America and the publisher Heinemann.

Read: Two universities stick with a discredited idea
Read: Reading Recovery financial difficulties
Read: Science movement trouble for Heinemann
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Introducing: Sold a Story en español

Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:05:00 +0000

A Spanish adaptation of Sold a Story is now available. Hosted by journalist Valeria Fernández, the podcast is condensed into one 58-minute episode, plus a conversation between Fernández and Emily Hanford for Spanish-speaking parents whose children are learning to read English in American schools.

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8: The Impact

Thu, 18 May 2023 05:05:00 +0000

Across the country, school districts are dropping textbooks, state legislatures are going so far as to ban teaching methods, and everyone, it seems, is talking about "the science of reading." Things have been changing since Sold a Story was released. In this episode, we tell you about some of the changes and what we think about them.

Read: New reading laws sweep the nation
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EXTENDED READING

Blog: Seidenberg on translating research into practice
Article: Goldenberg, Goldberg on premortem (paywall) | Excerpt

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7: Your Words

Thu, 11 May 2023 05:05:00 +0000

Voicemails, emails, tweets: We got a lot of messages from people after they heard Sold a Story. In this episode, we bring you some of their voices. A 10-year-old figures out why he has struggled to read. A mom stays up late to binge the podcast. A teacher confirms what he's suspected for years — he's not really teaching kids how to read.

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Brains On: How Do We Learn to Read — and Why is It Hard?

Tue, 11 Apr 2023 05:05:00 +0000

This week we have an episode of a show called Brains On. It’s a science podcast for kids from our colleagues at APM. In this episode, Emily joins the Brains On hosts to talk about how people learn to read. Grab the kids in your life and listen to this special episode made for kids and curious adults.

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What the Words Say

Thu, 06 Apr 2023 05:05:00 +0000

There are kids like C.J. all over the country. Schools tell their parents they are reading at grade level, but the kids are not. And whether they ever get the help they need can depend a lot on their family income and their race. In this documentary, originally published in August 2020, host Emily Hanford shows that America’s approach to reading instruction is having an especially devastating impact on children of color.

Read more: Children of color are far less likely to get the help they need
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At a Loss for Words: What's Wrong with How Schools Teach Reading

Thu, 30 Mar 2023 05:05:00 +0000

Molly Woodworth had a secret: She couldn’t read very well. She fought her way through text by looking at the first letter of a word and thinking of something that made sense. Reading was slow and laborious. Then she learned that her daughter's school was actually teaching kids to read that way. In this documentary, originally published in August 2019, host Emily Hanford reveals that many kids are being taught the habits of struggling readers. Winner of a Gracie Award and finalist for an EWA Public Service Award.

Read more: How a flawed idea is teaching millions of kids to be poor readers
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Hard Words: Why Aren't Our Kids Being Taught to Read?

Thu, 23 Mar 2023 05:05:00 +0000

Jack Silva had a problem. He was the chief academic officer of a school district in Pennsylvania, and more than 40% of the kids in his district were not proficient readers. He didn't know much about how kids learn to read, but he knew he had to figure it out. Originally published in September 2018, this documentary helped ignite a national conversation about the science of reading. Winner of an EWA Public Service Award.

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Read in Spanish: Translation by Aptus

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Hard to Read: How American Schools Fail Kids with Dyslexia

Thu, 16 Mar 2023 05:05:00 +0000

The parents knew something wasn’t right. The school said everything would be fine. But their kids weren’t learning how to read. In this documentary, originally published in September 2017, we look at why kids with dyslexia have a hard time getting the help they need in school.

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6: The Reckoning

Thu, 17 Nov 2022 06:05:00 +0000

Lucy Calkins says she has learned from the science of reading. She's revised her materials. Fountas and Pinnell have not revised theirs. Their publisher, Heinemann, is still selling some products to teach reading that contain debunked practices. Parents, teachers and lawmakers want answers.

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5: The Company

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 06:05:00 +0000

Teachers call books published by Heinemann their bibles. The company's products are in schools all over the country. Some of the products used to teach reading are rooted in a debunked idea about how children learn to read. But they've made the company and some of its authors millions.

Map: Heinemann’s national reach
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4: The Superstar

Thu, 03 Nov 2022 05:05:00 +0000

Teachers sing songs about Lucy Calkins. The longtime professor at Columbia University’s Teachers College is one of the most influential people in American elementary education today. Her admirers call her books bibles. Why didn't she know that scientific research contradicted reading strategies she promoted?

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3: The Battle

Thu, 27 Oct 2022 05:05:00 +0000

President George W. Bush made improving reading instruction a priority. He got Congress to provide money to schools that used reading programs supported by scientific research. But backers of Marie Clay’s ideas saw Bush’s Reading First initiative as a threat.

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2: The Idea

Thu, 20 Oct 2022 05:20:00 +0000

Sixty years ago, Marie Clay developed a way to teach reading she said would help kids who were falling behind. They’d catch up and never need help again. Today, her program remains popular, and her theory about how people read is at the root of a lot of reading instruction in schools. But Marie Clay was wrong.

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1: The Problem

Thu, 20 Oct 2022 05:05:00 +0000

Lee Gaul watches his daughter’s lessons during Zoom school and discovers a dismaying truth: She can't read. Little Zoe isn't the only one. Sixty-five percent of fourth graders in the United States are not proficient readers. Kids need to learn specific skills to become good readers, and in many schools, those skills are not being taught.

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